{"id":963,"date":"2009-07-03T06:43:16","date_gmt":"2009-07-03T11:43:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.marklamster.com\/?p=963"},"modified":"2009-07-03T06:43:16","modified_gmt":"2009-07-03T11:43:16","slug":"ovid-on-picking-up-girls-literally","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/?p=963","title":{"rendered":"Ovid: On Picking Up Girls (Literally)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.marklamster.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/leucippus.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.marklamster.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/leucippus.jpg\" alt=\"leucippus\" title=\"leucippus\" width=\"425\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>And if she doesn&#8217;t give [kisses] freely, just take them anyway, ungiven. Maybe at first she&#8217;ll fight, and call you &#8220;wicked rogue&#8221;; but her wish in fighting is really to be won. Only be sure your clumsy force doesn&#8217;t bruise her tender lips or that she can complain of roughness. A man who has taken kisses and nothing more deserves to lose even what was already granted. After a kiss any failure in the fulfillment of desire\u2014well, really, that&#8217;s not modesty, it&#8217;s just bad manners! Invoke violence if you like; this is a violence girls appreciate. The thing that they enjoy, they often like to think they give unwillingly. A woman suddenly seized in an impulse of violent passion is pleased and counts the outrage as a compliment. But when a woman who could be compelled goes off untouched she may put on a show of pleasure but will in fact be depressed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As this most un-politically correct of passages from Ovid&#8217;s &#8220;Art of Love&#8221; suggests, the great poet advocated a rather aggressive tactic when confronted with the age-old &#8220;hard to get&#8221; ploy. It was the inspiration for the great Rubens painting above, the &#8220;Rape of the Daughters of Leucippus.&#8221; A somewhat more conservative course of action is recommended in these modern times. Still, the classics are not without insight.<\/p>\n<p>Translation by Elizabeth McGrath from the <em>Corpus Rubenianum<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And if she doesn&#8217;t give [kisses] freely, just take them anyway, ungiven. Maybe at first she&#8217;ll fight, and call you &#8220;wicked rogue&#8221;; but her wish in fighting is really to be won. Only be sure your clumsy force doesn&#8217;t bruise her tender lips or that she can complain of roughness. A man who has taken &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/?p=963\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Ovid: On Picking Up Girls (Literally)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-963","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/963","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=963"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/963\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=963"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=963"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.marklamster.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=963"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}